How Celeste Buckingham Went From Burnout to Building a Global Career

00:00:00: I wasn't so hungry for worldwide fame.

00:00:02: I was not so hungry of recognition, but I wanted respect For years when i was in denial about going to therapy... ...I would write music instead.

00:00:10: that's how I dealt with it.

00:00:10: To this day if I'm dealing something difficult It goes into Music!

00:00:14: I believe in living your life in a way that is kind and grateful.. ..I believe in gratitude But If you don't

00:00:21: taste

00:00:22: Life You won't know what it tastes like.

00:00:30: Welcome to Her Voice Impacts.

00:00:32: I'm Daniella Eon

00:00:34: and

00:00:34: i'm here to amplify women's voices globally.

00:00:39: Women who have influence in the area of arts, culture business innovation entertainment and government you know it's so important that we now hear the rising of women's voice globally because they have a story is no stranger to the spotlight.

00:01:05: She's an award-winning accomplished recording artist, singer songwriter.

00:01:10: runs her own music business which She's also won multiple awards, such as Instance.

00:01:20: We've got the MTV Music Europe Awards charted on the Billboard top forty.

00:01:25: she is also Forbes thirty under thirty and Ambassador for L'Oreal.

00:01:31: I don't know if actually sleeps but we're going to find out.

00:01:35: Her name is Celeste Buckingham and she's a wonderful advocate for women.

00:01:39: She knows exactly what the soul story about because her music has all that, but also this thing called authenticity which I want to tap into today.

00:01:52: so I'm looking forward in the presidential suite.

00:02:07: How did we get here?

00:02:08: I

00:02:08: honestly don't know, i've been here once before which is also surprising... Wow!

00:02:12: ...I thought that was a one-off but apparently not so.

00:02:15: We are totally being a rockstar today

00:02:18: Are we?

00:02:18: I think so.

00:02:20: No, Bratislava is beautiful and this obviously place where you grew

00:02:24: up right.

00:02:25: This is technically my hometown Yeah.. I wasn't born here But I grew up here Was raised here Started my career Here Finished my education So it's home.

00:02:33: That's brilliant.

00:02:35: What do you find special about Slovakia in itself?

00:02:40: I think Slovakie has a lot to offer, um...in many different ways is culturally rich socially rich culturally.

00:02:49: It's a very interesting dichotomy because Slovakia is both a young culture, but with the really ancient identity.

00:02:55: And so it's kind of this combination two things that meet and you see in older generations then younger generation.

00:03:02: The only thing I would say is that I think Slovaks have hard time taking pride on who they are where come from Because history country They're still proud to be who we are which i think wonderful.

00:03:18: Nothing that's got nothing but benefits.

00:03:20: Honestly,

00:03:21: it's so wonderful That you obviously have Got an amazing mixture of nationalities in your bloodline right and that really influenced You as a singer songwriter.

00:03:35: And how did that kind of inspire?

00:03:38: Your life to take on this journey which is one that Is very unique.

00:03:43: by the way not a lot people get to have this kind of journey that you've experienced, which has started from a very young age as well.

00:03:51: And winning all the awards and having all of the amazing influence how did that begin for you?

00:04:00: where you knew... You know what?

00:04:01: This is what I'm doing!

00:04:02: ...and having different cultures embedded in you at the same time.

00:04:08: I mean i grew up with that sense Confused identity for from the beginning I always remember that it was a big thing in our household.

00:04:17: I think also primarily because we as A family lived in a country, but we didn't come From wow and we didn' t have any roots here.

00:04:23: so We were creating those relationships of building Those routes from The beginning.

00:04:27: yeah.

00:04:27: So from the age Of three you know i really Remember That we Were Always Different Which Was Fine For The Most Part.

00:04:33: But What I Found Interesting Is?

00:04:35: I didn't think it was going to somehow be incorporated into my career.

00:04:40: It's just a part of who i am, it is the everyday life.

00:04:42: Learning and language...I did not speak every day would have been a discovery or something cultural that I could not understand because they had no knowledge about me as well.

00:04:53: so you were always learning something choosing whether to adopt it in your own way.

00:05:00: It's the one benefit of being multicultural is you get to kind of pick and choose.

00:05:04: So I became this sort of enmeshment of different personality traits or behaviors that I picked from, cherry-picked from the different cultures i grew up around.

00:05:14: I'm a part Iranian American...I've got Irish ancestry..I live in Slovakia You know.

00:05:20: so there are bunches of things going on there And they're all very culturally different.

00:05:25: But then when I started working as a singer and I started performing, I realized that was my biggest asset in not only growth but also marketing and brand identity because it's different.

00:05:40: And no matter where i went any country there is always going to be difference.

00:05:44: Different in the way people would accept.

00:05:50: I'm pale with blue eyes, and a female.

00:05:53: I sing pop songs.

00:05:54: that's kind of... can't really offend anybody.

00:05:56: you know what i mean?

00:05:57: But the truth to the matter is ...is that I understood this was tool ..that could use my benefit which never considered before.. I just thought well this who am in ,and it would get into way because people are foreign or they wouldn't include all the classic things like an immigrant kid.

00:06:16: Socially, you know.

00:06:17: You're not as it's not easy to kind of transition from childhood two teenage years to adulthood.

00:06:23: It's more difficult

00:06:23: huge obstacles.

00:06:24: so that was kinda the primary thing.

00:06:26: but its become my biggest strength and now is almost an automatic part.

00:06:29: everything I do whether work related or personal.

00:06:33: Its very proud to be a different people from different backgrounds.

00:06:39: And you lean into those?

00:06:40: I do.

00:06:41: and then also in the countries, as a family we adapt where they're kind of foreigners that immediately go learn their language or culture... Eat food!

00:06:51: Exactly so i really tried to ingratiate myself but not in a way that's offensive.

00:06:55: it was like..i still very much respect that i am NOT FROM HERE.

00:06:59: So there are some claims But there are others that can say, well I'm very proud to be a part of this culture and I am very proud...very proud to become a part in the society which is currently living.

00:07:09: And it makes things easier for people who accept you or understand your thing.

00:07:13: It also makes you heck up more interesting!

00:07:16: I don't know if i cant judge that but its helped really find lasting relationships both personally and professionally because Anyone is more willing to talk you and work with you if you try To speak their language, I don't mean just their physical language but embrace Their language in their culture.

00:07:34: It's such a great diplomacy tactic or a great diplomatic tool?

00:07:40: Absolutely!

00:07:41: And it's amazing how You've

00:07:43: woven

00:07:44: this into your life story.

00:07:47: Your music is like your life-story.

00:07:51: Also its got soul soul artists.

00:07:55: Give me some of those that you like because I might listening before and Dang, she likes some really cool people.

00:08:02: So who inspired

00:08:04: you?

00:08:05: I grew up with parents that were academics and didn't listen to a lot of music.

00:08:08: My mother was kind more into music but she listened to Barbara Streisand and Celine Dion.

00:08:14: And

00:08:14: then

00:08:14: Persian Music is the big thing in my household.

00:08:16: How did it come about

00:08:18: like that?

00:08:18: It just seemed normal for me.

00:08:19: The fact...I will play it doing basic chores or driving in the

00:08:25: car.

00:08:25: Does that bring any closeness?

00:08:28: your nationality, like who you are.

00:08:30: The closest I can describe it to is how people described the hearth and stories about being around a campfire in that warm feeling when sharing family story or seeing...

00:08:39: Feels ancient doesn't?

00:08:40: It

00:08:40: feels an ancient ritual for me that activity of listening to Persian classical music at my house where i'm doing something as mundane cooking or vacuuming whatever.

00:08:53: They're

00:08:54: important.

00:08:54: It's very deep, yes it is and I think its also because i'm from a family that left during right after the revolution.

00:09:02: so there are large communities of Iranians next generation half-Iranian like me around world who feel this connection to their culture into country technically doesn't exist in that way anymore but still exists different Complete generation that grew up loving everything Iranian culturally, you know culinary whatever it is and they kind of there's a

00:09:27: disconnect

00:09:29: They are.

00:09:29: They're really wonderful Iranians or some of the best people I've ever met And i think-and I say that with complete and absolute bias.

00:09:37: But but genuinely II think It's an extremely rich culture in society.

00:09:44: I'm very grateful to be a part of it in that way.

00:09:47: So, my childhood was growing up with sort-of different influences and then when i got a little bit older, of course, you know My friends were like oh your lame You gotta listen to this.

00:09:53: so I listened all the pop things at the time When I was young girl.

00:09:56: It's Britney Spears Christina Aguilera Was All The Big Great.

00:10:00: That Sort Of The Concept Of A Modern Pop Icon Was Just Coming Into Existence In That Way And And in the early two thousand, we had all these great like bands and then we have you know Like The Black Eyed Peas.

00:10:11: That was a whole era of music

00:10:14: Pop

00:10:14: music.

00:10:15: But Then I got a little bit older and did that thing when you hit the puberty teen years.

00:10:20: I need to be cool And listening to Britney Spears was no longer cool.

00:10:25: So I was going into punk music, but what I really loved above all that stayed with me my whole life is the old classics jazz.

00:10:33: so i did a lot of

00:10:34: friends... I hear so much jazz in your voice and it's like on point.

00:10:38: thank you!

00:10:39: That is where you have found kind-of sweet spot for you as well?

00:10:43: Yeah

00:10:44: by no means a Jazz singer But this influence especially with the greats Aretha Franklin at a James Billy holiday and then also Frank Sinatra Dean Martin There was a lot of.

00:10:55: I listened to a lot Of these kinds of and they're like, oh so instrumentally.

00:10:58: Like I listen to Dizzy Gillespie And yes Armstrong.

00:11:02: So it was really not just.

00:11:03: It was the whole thing you were

00:11:05: expanding?

00:11:06: Yeah your creativity yeah At this time

00:11:09: and i think its natural and i recommend it To every young person who is interested in art In any way whether Its music or something else Is You know, expose yourself to as much of it as possible.

00:11:19: Yeah you don't have To love all of It.

00:11:20: yeah doesn't Have to be your favorite.

00:11:21: but I have this rule that like i never Say no to anything new when it comes to music?

00:11:25: I will listen to everything.

00:11:26: yes I Will decide whether its for me after I've listened to it.

00:11:29: But If you don't try it, You'll never know.

00:11:32: And the same applies with food and life and traveling and anything else.

00:11:35: So I have this rule that i apply to most things in my life.

00:11:38: It's like if you don' t try it ,you won´t know.

00:11:40: Wow!I

00:11:40: love these rules.

00:11:41: Yeah so thats kind of what... I mean Don't do anything stupid or dangerous But everything.

00:11:46: I mean that happened as well.

00:11:48: but The point is early twenties are an interesting time for your life But generally yeah Even if you're afraid, do it.

00:11:56: You know?

00:11:57: Because you can always get over the fear later or decide.

00:12:00: this is not for me.

00:12:01: I won't do it again.

00:12:02: There's ways to kind of get around It.

00:12:03: But If you don't taste life...you won't know what it tastes like.

00:12:08: So that kicked in my teenage years Gave a lot of difficult nights, sleepless nights To my parents but The truth is let me really understand That Life has to be lived to be tasted and enjoyed.

00:12:27: My music is very much a reflection of where I am psychologically and spiritually, what i'm feeling.

00:12:31: What I've experienced.

00:12:32: It's very much like a diary.

00:12:34: in

00:12:34: a way I can sense that.

00:12:35: And obviously your first song Run Run Run Yeah Hello Like That Really Did Open Up.

00:12:41: It was huge hit.

00:12:42: it sort happened unexpectedly Which kind of threw me you know through the ringer for bit because I Was really surprised.

00:12:49: oh wow But then but that created this platform For Me that Im Still You Know hovering on and using to this day, which is really I'm extremely grateful.

00:13:00: And also very surprised that a sixteen-year old came up with that little melody in her bedroom at two o'clock in the morning!

00:13:06: Then these producers were like yeah let's do it!

00:13:08: It usually

00:13:08: how works isn't?

00:13:09: Because you never think

00:13:12: right?!

00:13:12: You hear stories of first big hits by some biggest artists on earth.

00:13:18: the authenticity in it is key because one pattern that I've noticed with any kind of art work, when its authentic It tends to be successful.

00:13:32: Yeah.

00:13:34: I was sixteen, iIwas in love and i was also fiercely independent...i was raised by a mother who is fiercely independent..and i don't know what to do with this but there's boy that i like!

00:13:42: What should i do?

00:13:43: So i said run!

00:13:44: Run!

00:13:45: I told him to RUN AND i told myself TO RUN!

00:13:48: As fast as you can

00:13:50: right?!

00:13:51: And actually, I have this running joke with my team and what the people that work within The People Who Know Me is like since then...I wrote a song once about running.

00:13:58: By the way i don't run ever!

00:14:04: And yet, I've been running since then.

00:14:06: My whole life.

00:14:07: it just took off from that one song and basically i haven't stopped.

00:14:09: It's

00:14:10: a phenomenal story because you don't hear alot of them.

00:14:16: Now we're hearing everyone is going into places trying to make it trying to study as much, learn as much in this and you

00:14:28: were just saving a teenager being yourself.

00:14:30: I was!

00:14:31: I mean i trained and worked on my music and skills but yeah it kind of... It's happening when I'm just being true myself creating something that is authentic space.

00:14:38: That doesn't necessarily means its going be very successful In terms like business But..it spoke to alot people And I think thats what gives art power Is when it speaks with people the way they are real and relatable.

00:14:54: everyone can find a little bit of themselves in that art, In that moment.

00:14:58: ...in the piece of work and I've applied this rule to basically everything i have ever done since.

00:15:03: where it's like...I don't care about the semantics but It has to be authentic.

00:15:09: Yes And it has say something To someone whoever is looking at it listening to reading it.

00:15:13: Its

00:15:14: not just surface Exactly because thats what marketing Is for The Marketing Surface and you Can meddle with That as much As You Need.

00:15:21: And, but the truth is that if the core of a product or the core thing you're presenting to person isn't authentic.

00:15:27: Or from real place it doesn't really mean anything.

00:15:29: and in nowadays we can see what's not authentic very quickly.

00:15:33: Yeah!

00:15:34: It does really well But its short lived That success doesn't bring longevity It doesn't create legacy.

00:15:42: For me...it was always about creating something which would last.

00:15:46: I'm not thinking about, you know in terms of oh i need a legacy behind me.

00:15:49: I really couldn't care less.

00:15:50: but the thing is that...I really could!

00:15:51: You know one day well..i will be die.

00:15:53: Well ,you know .I was raised to understand the philosophy from dust you came and to dust you shall return.

00:16:00: so at the end of the day what matters?

00:16:03: What do you do with this life ?

00:16:05: How would it work?

00:16:07: Who do you take along with for the ride?

00:16:09: Yeah, who do you help.

00:16:10: How do you touch?

00:16:11: Who do You speak to?

00:16:12: Yes!

00:16:13: Who are you

00:16:13: transforming exactly?

00:16:15: and so I'm in The process Transforming and evolving yourself

00:16:19: self.

00:16:20: Wow And i love this because In your book What do I do now?

00:16:24: Now, it is in slow back.

00:16:25: Yes!

00:16:25: But i don't

00:16:26: care

00:16:27: because...I found a way to read some of that which was quite inspiring and I love the fact you can scan bar codes here and go into songs right.

00:16:37: Yeah

00:16:37: well we thought as an artist or singer Even though I've written a book, it's gotta have something to do with music.

00:16:44: It's gonna have musics!

00:16:45: So that was the way we came up when decided we would put these QR codes in so you can just scan and play this song related to your reading.

00:16:53: And there's a quote here and says, in an industry defined by extravagance she became a beacon of authenticity through her art.

00:17:07: She inspired others to embrace their individuality.

00:17:10: This is huge because her voice impact stands on one of those pillars of authenticity.

00:17:15: I want to know from your soul Your heart what that actually means for you?

00:17:20: What it does help other

00:17:25: people.

00:17:26: It's very common Specifically in the business.

00:17:29: I'm and but also generally for women, I think we're raised In a way to put on a mask.

00:17:33: Yeah,

00:17:34: I mean We all wear masks day-to-day.

00:17:36: you know our professional ones are personal ones.

00:17:38: The face which or loved one is that face?

00:17:40: We show our superiors wherever we happen To be in life.

00:17:44: But i think there's this added weight.

00:17:46: two Women There Is This Added Expectation.

00:17:50: We Switch Our Behavior And Are Percepted strength depending on where we seem to be, where we find ourselves.

00:18:01: Partially because Women tend to sometimes be considered you know too much I used hear this a lot i would go into boardrooms and I Would Go Into Meetings Where There Was Nothing But Men who would say, oh let me deal with it.

00:18:17: Or you're talking too much or your to loud or you are too pushy.

00:18:22: that's asking for too much and a long time I believed in because he was told by superiors.

00:18:27: I trusted advisors managers whatever they were.

00:18:32: the thing is after awhile i realized actually no thats way call what ever its trying to push through.

00:18:41: Where is this expectation coming from that a woman should not be loud?

00:18:44: Why's that thing, you know what I mean except for public decor.

00:18:50: Otherwise, you know why should I dim my light so that others can shine brighter

00:18:56: than me?

00:18:56: And that passion.

00:18:57: Yes Why?

00:18:58: and So nobody could answer that question for me You know.

00:19:00: and then i realized oh there is no why.

00:19:02: this Is just a way to limit movement and progress.

00:19:07: and so i started breaking those boundaries.

00:19:10: and i think That's also part of being authentic.

00:19:11: it's also been its Being authentic the one self in a very individual Way.

00:19:15: but It's Also Being Authentic To Your Gender Yes.

00:19:18: And being authentic to who you are, because a part of our identity or my identities I'm woman and that comes with its own history understanding position in the world limitations and strengths.

00:19:32: so i think why should limit myself anymore than already am by society's constructs, why should that apply to me or anyone for that matter?

00:19:43: There there is a difference between rules and limitations.

00:19:46: And I think people tend to blend those lines too much.

00:19:49: you know so from the element of authenticity it not just authenticity in this sense being a woman that I could look back on and say, When I started applying that, I remember...I had a lot of pushback because i didn't do it for many years.

00:20:27: It's a good sign!

00:20:28: I was kind-of people pleaser when I was younger which is very common to young women also apparently rare common for eldest siblings elder sisters Very common and then the eldest daughter.

00:20:38: And so um..it took me awhile To kinda say hey no like learning how to say the word No Was extremely difficult.

00:20:46: Now its my favorite word.

00:20:47: Did you feel bad about what he said?

00:20:49: Oh I felt horrible.

00:20:50: I would shake I would squibber in my boots.

00:20:53: I couldn't, on the surface...I was a good liar.

00:20:56: or i could pretend everything is fine with show business but you know that thing.

00:20:59: it's just that You learn to set your boundaries and not just boundaries In this sense of protecting mental health And personal space But also setting boundaries Demand to have seat at the table.

00:21:10: I demand to have this place and I demand say my peace And then you can express your opinion.

00:21:14: however, which way?

00:21:15: You like so?

00:21:16: that was a big part of it for me as well.

00:21:17: It really that sort of second emancipation in that sense of like

00:21:22: eye.

00:21:23: Your voice yeah,

00:21:24: I have avoid

00:21:25: not just singing boys Yeah a voice that matters In an industry where you've got two speak up.

00:21:33: Yes, exactly!

00:21:34: I do

00:21:35: believe.

00:21:35: and paving the way for women which i'm sure that you're doing there because your an advocate of women's rights?

00:21:41: I mean...I do a very small part in it.

00:21:42: There are so many people who do way more than me but I try to apply into my work life And personal life as much different ways as possible.

00:21:54: I like talk about how you run Your whole business.

00:21:58: As woman..and I have say as artist especially musicians, this is a vital part of knowing how the economy side of it works right?

00:22:10: The business side.

00:22:11: Tell me why you decided to do that and how important that is to you And maybe even inspire other women To take a hold in that

00:22:23: sense.

00:22:24: Well, I mean it started... My mother actually encouraged me to do that.

00:22:27: Oh we love that!

00:22:29: Because i started very young and basically working at fifteen-sixteen so I wasn't even legally allowed to sign contracts.

00:22:34: So your mother was able too?

00:22:35: And my mother is kind of in the go between.

00:22:38: When when I was younger had a big rising success with Run Run Run and other things like being offered label deals from

00:22:45: every major

00:22:45: label in the United States worldwide These contract would come you know..and I couldn't.

00:22:51: I couldn't make heads

00:22:52: or tails of them, i was seventeen.

00:22:54: I didn't know any better all those words

00:22:55: and then it's gonna make nerves.

00:22:57: yeah but i had a mother who is really...and i have a mother thankfully Who Is Really Savvy And Really Sharp And Always Kind Of On The Lookout For Things.

00:23:05: So She Was Kind Of Filtering Through Them.

00:23:07: But she Would Also Very Honestly Tell Me You Know Like She Wouldn'T Deal With It For Me.

00:23:12: She Would Involve me in All Of It.

00:23:13: so from an Early Age Training me to do this in a way.

00:23:17: You know run your own business and you know And understand your business and understand the right side.

00:23:22: protect yourself.

00:23:23: Yes, I mean

00:23:24: as i got a little bit older also I chose To remain an independent artist.

00:23:28: yeah label deal is very

00:23:29: powerful because it's A difficult

00:23:31: choice.

00:23:31: It's not easiest choice

00:23:32: but okay?

00:23:33: Its

00:23:33: The Choice I made Because I realized that my freedom as an artist and a person is more important to me than the actual level of success.

00:23:42: I wasn't so hungry for world-wide fame, or recognition... I wanted respect!

00:23:49: And those are two very different things.

00:23:50: They can be together but they're separate entities.

00:23:55: In this situation i happened in Those were not mutually exclusive.

00:24:02: I'm gonna earn my place, it might take me longer.

00:24:05: It might be harder...I might never get to that level of fame and success.

00:24:08: It's a very

00:24:08: different time then too because being an independent artist you didn't have all these kind of streaming online outlets?

00:24:13: Yeah!

00:24:14: It was just starting when i was at the point like Spotify had come into existence.

00:24:18: so yeah

00:24:20: coming in as an independent artist, how did that feel for you?

00:24:24: That you now had not just the responsibility of writing songs and producing them.

00:24:29: And recording it... Now you have this other responsibilities

00:24:32: too!

00:24:32: The irony is that the writing in the producing is the easiest part of my daily job.

00:24:36: so I do that's for fun like that's the fun part of a job because yesterday was driving back from a trip and I was saying, oh, really craving to write music.

00:24:46: But I wasn't like...I won't have time for another four weeks.

00:24:50: so that's how the schedule is?

00:24:52: And you know i run my own career but I have team of people who work with me because it's fun being the boss!

00:25:03: All your workers are friends.

00:25:04: they're all kind of independent of you cause in a freelance capacity or based on commission.

00:25:13: There's no hierarchy, nobody is threatened by it.

00:25:16: But I get to call the final shots and make the final decisions And also come up with crazy ideas that are presented in these amazing wonderful people.

00:25:25: They're

00:25:26: like let us do this!

00:25:27: Are you kidding?

00:25:28: I was kind of joking.

00:25:29: they were like nope we got this and then pull off every time.

00:25:33: So i'm really grateful.

00:25:34: but it took years.

00:25:36: find those people, build those relationships and build that team.

00:25:40: I've been in the

00:25:41: industry for fifteen years but only last three years do i really feel like I have gotten it to a point where its really functional you know built-to-last.

00:25:51: so im very grateful.

00:25:56: So I think that being in the business manager capacity isn't... I was born bossy with a loud mouth and would never shut up.

00:26:07: And my mother always said, you know?

00:26:09: That's where your going.

00:26:10: She kind of knew from- My mother guessed my sister and i pretty early Really?

00:26:14: Yeah she kinda figured it out.

00:26:16: She knew that the stage would be a good place for you.

00:26:18: Yeah,

00:26:19: yeah

00:26:19: definitely And she was like.

00:26:21: and even if you don't literally are not on the stage all time You will have something to do with it.

00:26:25: knows again probably.

00:26:26: so I mean no and running up is yeah But i highly encourage every artist.

00:26:31: why?

00:26:32: Because of your because of independence and freedom.

00:26:34: there's A lot of exploitation in art In music business getting

00:26:38: record deal.

00:26:39: yes Not what we know.

00:26:42: It's amazing.

00:26:42: I'm not saying it is a no and always the worst idea but you have to know your rights, what are entitled too And then proceed accordingly.

00:26:50: getting lawyer is expensive which why its good.

00:26:53: at least know basics on your own so that really navigate as much as possible before having just speak to a lawyer or professionals.

00:27:01: The other thing isn't jumping of first opportunity right away.

00:27:06: Give yourself time if possible think about it because these things may seem like the once in a lifetime opportunity, and they maybe are.

00:27:14: They don't add up sometimes... But

00:27:15: they don't necessarily add-up but some days end up costing artists more than would ever give or return you know?

00:27:22: The return on investment is low!

00:27:23: You feel that your been used to this sense Don't you?

00:27:26: And also here at the mercy of other people Your career & life is at the Mercy Of Other People.

00:27:30: Whether they decide to keep you On the roster whether they decide To continue working with you..they might have A completely different understanding of image you want to present of art.

00:27:39: you're trying It's it again.

00:27:41: I'm not against it, but its just really knowing who you are and what You want out of it before you make a decision?

00:27:47: I agree.

00:27:47: And your keeping that authenticity going by also being independent.

00:27:52: Yeah i mean I chose the kind of difficult way to do because I am Difficult But thats you know.

00:27:57: Thats just

00:27:57: a me thing.

00:27:58: That is okay.

00:27:59: I Am grateful Because looking back you Know had The opportunity at one point To be like A world famous artist Could have been a World Famous pop star.

00:28:07: I don't know if it would have worked out, but i had the opportunity set before

00:28:11: me.

00:28:12: But what... ...I realized was that my freedom is kind of more valuable to me and ability to choose for myself was important.

00:28:20: Wow!

00:28:21: So..i made this choice for me And looking back It's

00:28:24: a huge choice?

00:28:25: ..i

00:28:25: never regretted that decision so from ME it works.

00:28:28: Other people look at me.

00:28:29: they think im crazy but thats everybody to each his own.

00:28:33: There

00:28:33: are always reasons you know Unknown to the others that might be looking in, but it's what you needed.

00:28:40: Yes for me

00:28:41: as an artist and a person or business manager I was a woman who wanted my life.

00:28:47: It took long time after i made this initial choice But now Im very content with how my work

00:28:54: is.

00:28:55: And your still in some sense in control.

00:28:57: Oh, I'm in complete control.

00:28:58: Complete control!

00:29:27: Anything could be happening.

00:29:28: Exactly, right?

00:29:29: And then you wake up one day and go I didn't agree to this.

00:29:32: Yeah

00:29:33: But you know exactly all the fine print.

00:29:35: yeah,

00:29:36: yep more or less I'm still learning a couple of things but your mom's

00:29:40: helping you out, right

00:29:42: She's I love her she's I think having and that's the other thing about women having.

00:29:49: Yes, she's my mother but also a force to be reckoned with.

00:29:51: She is your rock?

00:29:52: Yeah and even if it wasn't for her I would ingratiate myself because having those female role models in life whether they're related or not was so vital.

00:30:05: It took me years when i was younger one of the girls who raised boys are easier all these stereotypes about girl friends.

00:30:15: As I've gotten older, I realized how foolish i was and How?

00:30:19: I wish.

00:30:19: I had even more girlfriends in my life And More peers to compare with

00:30:24: doesn't?

00:30:25: it does?

00:30:26: and I think It's a mistake.

00:30:27: I Think it's an issue Because for me I grew up without that feminine presence In My Life at my mother and I had A couple of other people who is very minimal.

00:30:37: Whereas I think when women are together in Solidarity and also going through their different things Together That sort that alliance forms, and we're a team.

00:30:48: We are village or community... It's

00:30:51: like the sacred circle of women

00:30:54: Even with women.

00:30:54: you don't want to be besties then together,

00:30:59: yeah.

00:30:59: Even when we don't get along even if you know bicker about each other or whatever it is.

00:31:03: but there's that sort of sense from my experience at least.

00:31:06: Somehow

00:31:06: its gotta go down back to the roots.

00:31:08: so women did really run villages and knew everything.

00:31:12: most successful societies in history were run by women.

00:31:14: they were matriarchies not patriotism.

00:31:16: But thats a conversation

00:31:17: for another time.

00:31:20: I wanna

00:31:20: ask have ever felt your songs has provided healing?

00:31:27: Ooh, I don't know about healing.

00:31:28: Healing for others maybe?

00:31:31: Or healing even...

00:31:31: I would hope so?

00:31:32: ...the

00:31:32: therapeutic you feel yourself that you aim to release.

00:31:34: Oh!

00:31:34: For me definitely.

00:31:36: Absolutely That is my therapy.

00:31:37: For years when i was in denial of going into therapy.. ..I'd write music instead and thats how I dealt with it.

00:31:41: So yeah absolutely.

00:31:43: I started writing songs because it helped with my mental health.

00:31:46: It helps me process things, so for me absolutely definitely to this day if I'm dealing something difficult hard-to-swallow or iIm feeling a lot of good emotions but im just feeling alot...it goes into music!

00:31:58: So

00:31:59: that's your

00:32:00: outlet?

00:32:00: Absolutely yeah.

00:32:01: and for me its is..and so hope people find themselves in.

00:32:04: it makes them feel good or help them process whatever they are going through transformational

00:32:11: maybe even evolving.

00:32:14: And also my music has evolved with age and experience

00:32:17: because

00:32:18: it's a living thing to me.

00:32:19: It grows with me, you know?

00:32:22: So when I was younger the themes were different but more simple But still very clear.

00:32:29: Then as i got older and had a darker period You can hear in the music Of course!

00:32:35: The dark night of soul fight to understand and figure it all out.

00:32:39: And now, at a point where its sort of more joyful but still trying to understand life... It's-it is where I am!

00:32:45: Its me in music form basically..its like if you took me apart turned into sound waves.

00:32:50: There ya are!

00:32:51: That would probably be what i hope means that im really managed write music from my soul that expresses me as human being.

00:33:01: But, I mean that's you know time will tell.

00:33:03: I don't really...

00:33:04: Love it!

00:33:05: It is still deeply soulful and at the same time touching on spirituality which i wanted to ask do you feel your gift?

00:33:13: Your sound?

00:33:14: Your music as a force something thats greater than yourself?

00:33:19: I don't know about that.

00:33:20: As it comes through?

00:33:21: I was raised in religion, but i kind of drifted away from it...I always like to use a quote form actually very favorite TV show of mine which says ''i have complicated relationship with the almighty''.

00:33:32: It's best way to describe my spiritual and religious relationships.

00:33:36: But to be honest , i do hope our life is more than just an amalgamation of cells That came into existence.

00:33:44: And if isn't well then the answer is clear ends, and whether it ends.

00:33:50: And how it continues.

00:33:51: I think that It's still important to focus on here-and now... and live in your life In the present?

00:34:00: ...in a way That is kind To you..to others ..and to the worlds.

00:34:06: You live in The universe.

00:34:07: you inhabit The tree in your backyard.

00:34:11: There'a reason why Nature itself constantly proves that... I believe in nature, to be honest.

00:34:16: Yes!

00:34:16: I believe the power that Earth gives and how plants function.

00:34:25: recently they discovered apparently in a study that plants can feel pain.

00:34:30: It's just emit sound but it is such high frequency we cannot hear.

00:34:34: That's awful, isn't it?

00:34:37: So are you thinking well great now I got a star because i can't eat the plants either cuz that feels bad.

00:34:42: We're just gonna be breatharians.

00:34:43: Basically live on.

00:34:45: I don't know salt I guess I don' t what else is left but no But I really try and im not perfect in any way.

00:34:51: That's what I believe in.

00:35:15: And what can I take from it that will actually be useful?

00:35:18: So, one more thing which is kind of my motto in life again stolen by mother.

00:35:25: The answer's never no its how.

00:35:29: and when it comes to trying to deal with a problem you know... How can i figure this out if i cant fix it..how could i live with this or understand this processes Or how can i solve it or ask for help to get it solved, you know?

00:35:47: Which is another big thing.

00:35:48: I was gonna say about women and asking for help!

00:35:51: That one's the last lesson that i learned recently How To Ask For Help And Not Feel Like A Burden And Also not feel like You're somehow weaker or less than for Asking For Help Or Needing Help.

00:36:05: Because I Was Very Much Tough You Know And I Always dealt with everything on my own And I learned that was stupid.

00:36:11: So, I started asking for help and surprisingly people gave it!

00:36:15: It didn't hurt anybody... ...and made my life AND their lives a lot easier.

00:36:19: She's so powerful

00:36:20: because you're starting to see the release in that You are letting yourself go and surrendering into this.

00:36:25: Okay

00:36:25: i'm gonna ask for help!

00:36:27: Someone

00:36:27: is going to help me with this situation.

00:36:29: I want to wrap up by asking what can tell women who listen?

00:36:38: during the morning, at night.

00:36:39: What can you tell them to keep them on their mission?

00:36:44: On theirs...on their path like?

00:36:46: what can you give them?

00:36:47: something like a little pearl To take away?

00:36:50: they're feeling a bit disheartened or You know They've come to that place where they can't say no Or they don't know how to solve Something.

00:37:01: What can you give them?

00:37:02: The only guarantee in life is that we're born and that we die.

00:37:06: So everything you do in between, it's all that matters.

00:37:09: And honestly Life is too short to be stomped over walked-over abused taken advantage of not listened to not heard Not appreciated and not loved.

00:37:20: so go where they will love you.

00:37:22: Go well They were appreciate.

00:37:23: You find those who will respect you.

00:37:27: build the things That YOU would like To see in the world.

00:37:30: That's it, there is nothing else to say to it.

00:37:32: any time I found myself stuck in situations where i was being mistreated or wasn't being heard...I was stuck for a while but this would always get me out of it because I realized that I don't have TIME!

00:37:44: There simply not enough time on planet earth and life and existence to waste.

00:37:51: Time is the one currency which is real.

00:37:53: It's the ONE thing that is spent immeasurably.

00:37:59: use it, you know?

00:38:00: That's it.

00:38:01: I love that!

00:38:02: This is like...that's

00:38:04: it!

00:38:04: Thank you so much.

00:38:06: You're an amazing soul and thank you for your music in your gift.

00:38:18: What is it that makes someone even from a young age be so tenacious about taking on a sole mission?

00:38:30: Could it be something in our life that has created some kind of challenge, that then makes us want to take that step out?

00:38:41: Or is just a real burning desire.

00:38:45: To have the artistry be seen so people can get healed transformed or even become better evolved person.

00:39:01: The

00:39:02: thing about all of this is that you, where are right now?

00:39:07: Is the opportunity That has given to you and it's a consistent thing

00:39:13: It

00:39:14: comes at you really quickly And then You can feel it kind of Simmering away inside if you have something that is telling you

00:39:26: To go forward.

00:39:28: And also at the same time, polarity comes in and tells you maybe not to.

00:39:34: But these are life's journeys!

00:39:37: Life's journey always brings back understanding who your higher

00:39:44: role

00:39:45: is for humanity.

00:39:49: I think by sitting here talking with women there was one thread that i consistently see.

00:39:59: One thing that really shines out to me is that they

00:40:03: all

00:40:03: acknowledge, That they want do good in the world.

00:40:08: They all want participate collaborate give back somehow To society through empathy compassion and authenticity.

00:40:19: And not forget courage.

00:40:21: The courage you have inside of You Is what it takes.

00:40:27: These women are not playing small.

00:40:31: They're playing big, they think big and ambitious but at the same time

00:40:37: humble!

00:40:39: These elements really what her voice impacts is about.

00:40:46: She's ready to bring that compassion And also to some degree healing through these amazing gifts.

00:40:58: You have that too.

00:41:00: you Have something.

00:41:01: everybody has something and I've been hearing this in all of the interviews That everyone has said The women have Something to offer.

00:41:12: we're All being put here

00:41:14: on earth

00:41:15: for something greater than ourselves.

00:41:18: This is a

00:41:19: really,

00:41:22: i would say.

00:41:23: For me it's A Really deep question.

00:41:26: what are you doing?

00:41:29: yourself.

00:41:30: Where are you heading towards?

00:41:32: that is going to leave a mark for the next generation?

00:41:39: I want to inspire you,

00:41:43: look

00:41:44: deeper into who you're your gifts and talents even challenges through sadness sorrows disappointments or regrets questioning also at same time When you've had those

00:42:01: highs,

00:42:02: how have you felt when?

00:42:04: You've had these highs and then.

00:42:06: How has it felt when you have gone down into that dark place?

00:42:12: the Dark Knight of the soul is a real element And it

00:42:15: happens a lot.

00:42:17: But just know but that dark night if the soul actually Is there to elevate you in to that high moment

00:42:23: again

00:42:24: where you become an Evolved person Your creativity expands, your abilities grow and you seem to be more resilient.

00:42:37: So her voice impacts is here to support you on that journey To also encourage you And see through all of the facade into the soul.

00:42:51: Soul has so many levels We have yet to even

00:42:55: unravel an unfold But I would like to take you on that journey where your

00:43:01: soul becomes the message.

00:43:04: The message is in your

00:43:05: soul and thats what's important here at Her Voice

00:43:08: Impacts.